Comments on: Dayton EMM-6 measurement microphone, calibrated by Cross-Spectrum Labs https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/ The enthusiast's audio webzine Mon, 27 Apr 2026 16:26:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.29 By: John Reekie https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-106723 Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:31:12 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-106723 Hi Wayne,

“Furthermore, Herb’s quote above regarding 70-80 degree orientation was speaking specifically of DRC, STC or RT60 measurements. He actually says that in the quote linked to HT Shack.”

Correct – the section of the article you are referring to is clearly titled “In-room measurements.”

John

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By: John Reekie https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-106722 Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:29:43 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-106722 Hi Nicholas, fair enough. The barrel of the M30 measures about 7.2 mm diameter whereas the EMM-6 is about 12.1 mm. It (the EMM-6) fits into a half-inch calibrator although needs some tape to close up the gap.

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By: Nicholas Charles Ames https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-106564 Thu, 06 Apr 2017 05:33:57 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-106564 The capsule diameter in the Dayton mic is not 1/2″, it is in fact closer to 1/4″. It is a 6mm capsule, hence the name EMM-6. The M30’s capsule is basically the exact same diameter. Therefore, the difference in HF extension between the two mics cannot be due to a difference in capsule diameter.

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By: Wayne Pflughaupt https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-20845 Thu, 14 May 2015 18:08:20 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-20845 There seems to be some misunderstanding of Herb Singleton’s recommendations for mic orientations when he said “with respect to the floor.” The picture (above) of the mic under the “In Room Measurements” heading shows 10-20 degree orientation with respect to the floor. 70-80 degrees would have the mic oriented upwards towards the ceiling.

Furthermore, Herb’s quote above regarding 70-80 degree orientation was speaking specifically of DRC, STC or RT60 measurements. He actually says that in the quote linked to HT Shack.

Frequency response measurements are a different story. Again referring to the HT Shack link from which Herb’s quote was taken, he says this in the sentence before it: “… If you’re trying to measure the freq response of a particular source [e.g. a speaker], measure with the mic pointed at the source (which will minimize the effect of the mic body)…”

For the record, Herb has never advocated pointing the mic at the floor for any kind of measurements. Here is the mic orientation he recommends for various types of measurements (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/spl-meters-mics-calibration-sound-cards/15951-cross-spectrum-microphone-calibration-service-usa-26.html#post609630). John Mulcahy, creator of REW, also recommends the same thing (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/rew-forum/62260-calibration-error.html#post554918).

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By: John Reekie https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-4667 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:07:18 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-4667 Hi Chris, I can’t stand to watch online videos…! In Figure 4 the EMM-6 deviation from the Earthworks above 30 kHz is with calibration. Uncalibrated, and no doubt with capsule size being a significant factor, the difference would be much larger.

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By: Chris McKeague https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-4637 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 05:36:30 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-4637 Hi John,

I would guess that the drop in response above 30kHz (in Figure 4) of the Dayton mic is a result of the microphone’s size. There was some recent videos made on microphone 101 on the eevblog that I found interesting – http://www.eevblog.com/2014/04/12/eevblog-602-introduction-to-microphones/

Chris

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By: Andi Petculescu https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-1245 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:38:08 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-1245 John, I am shamed – you’ve done my homework for me: my ACO 7046 mics are rated to 145 dB, which may make them better candidates than the EMM. (Nevertheless, I wonder how they achieve this with a sensitivity of 50 mV/Pa compared to Dayton’s 10 mV/Pa?)

Thanks again. -Andi

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By: John Reekie https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-1243 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:09:26 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-1243 Hi Andi, well, I guess all you really need is a simple mic preamp with phantom power. The Behringer Xenyx 502 comes to mind as a cheap option. However, with all that gear that you have access to, I wonder if there are suitable mic preamps already in there. Perhaps you already have what you need.

Also, I’d check the max SPL specs of the mics you have, the Dayton is specified at (only) 127 dB, a quick look at the Aco Pacific site shows some of their mics have a spec up to 175 dB.

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By: John Reekie https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-1242 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:48:31 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-1242 Hi Olav, a combination of it not being a review of the stock EMM-6 and the time it would have taken to resolve my concerns about the Dayton cal file. I felt it wasn’t a productive path to pursue.

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By: Andi Petculescu https://www.hifizine.com/2012/09/dayton-emm-6-measurement-microphone-calibrated-by-cross-spectrum-labs/comment-page-1/#comment-1241 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:42:28 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=5244#comment-1241 Hi John, many thanks for your reply!
I am using three scope channels to acquire the signals from the three “field” mics (PCB Piezotronics and ACO Pacific), all with BNC outputs. I would like to use the fourth channel for the reference mic (EMM 6). I like the scope because of its inherent high timebase stability etc. … and also because of its convenience and availability (I do not have funds to buy a multichannel sound card. 🙂 ).

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