Comments on: The Unease of the Audiophile https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/ The enthusiast's audio webzine Wed, 06 Mar 2024 19:37:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.25 By: Graham https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-23265 Tue, 19 May 2015 07:09:16 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-23265 Funny that Bang &Olufsen equipment is almost totally despised by the audiophile world, and yet B&O produce some of the very best speakers that money can buy. Not only that, but they bring aesthetics into the design (just like Apple with computers and phones).
You can buy a beautiful complete B&O system for less than some super oxygen free cables. And what about those special power cables! Is the last 1.5m of cable going to make any difference to what is produced at the power station and the 50 mile of rubbish that the electricity has already travelled along?

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By: Jezmo https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-2276 Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:52:22 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-2276 Its funny, I work as a designer of mixing desks for recording and broadcast, in recording studios all audio signals are sent via cat5 cable as a serial bit stream at 100Mbits/second, thats cat5 standard ethernet cable, no £20000 per meter cables anywhere in sight, no exotic power conditioning, no pebbles on CD players in fact none of the usual audiophile bollocks.no Quantum entagled cryogenicaly cooled oxygen free anything. Just sound engineering principles.

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By: Eric https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-780 Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:25:39 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-780 Wow! got to love the fresh air…The bright sunlight of truth…S**t, I’ve been reborn! Audiophile OCD’ers rejoice! There is hope! Ok… now back to THAT tube.

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By: Arthur Noxon https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-221 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:27:13 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-221 We have the emotional side of audio, outlined well here along with the physical side, the engineering and art that goes into the equipment. What’s missing here is the psychoacoustic side of our efforts. Because we are human listeners, not microphones plugged into electronic circuits, we are very susceptible to the sound masking noise floor which accompanies our perception of the direct signal.

Perception of a sonic event, or a train of sonic events is fundamentally a signal to noise experience or us. Refined listening aspects such as musical quality, soundstage and imaging come after and are entirely dependant on clarity in our perception of a sonic event. How much we can perceive is almost always determined by the sound masking effects of the event’s signal to noise ratio.

When we get great equipment and fire it off and hear no improvement. Is the dealer a crook? Not really. Is the manufacturer selling snake oil? No, usually not. Most of us work very hard and sincerely to capture, transmit and deliver great signals. But our perception of these great signals is clouded by the accompanying noise floor.

The human listener is helpless to differentiate between the direct signal and the early reflections that arrive within about 35ms, after the direct. It’s called the Haas Effect or Sound Fusion Time Window. The listener hears the sum of the direct + early reflections and is unable to separate them apart. It’s about our listening reaction time, and similar to how our eyes work, and why movies run at 24 frames per second. Clean early reflections are additive to the direct and helpful. Reverberant or otherwise phase distorted early reflected energies are not simple clean early reflections that add to the direct, they are scrambled up versions of the direct and as such create a masking noise floor that blocks our ability to perceive the direct. All this is going on within the first 1/30th second.

When we can’t perceive good sound, it’s because there is a noise floor blocking our view. This noise floor is usually an uncontrolled high speed reverberation build-up in the front of the room, where the sound is being created and while it is being created.

Uncontrolled low end buildup in the front of the room produces sound masking self noise floor that typically is louder than the direct signal, and both come from the same speaker. So when you can’t hear what you think you should be hearing, it’s no one’s fault. Don’t take the equipment back. It’s just that you reached the threshold of perception in your room. You were hoping that the front of your room would react faster and with more stability than you’ve provided for. When you can’t hear the electronic upgrade, it’s time to make the sonic upgrade, in the front of your room. Better sonics leads to percieving better electronics. In the communication world, it’s always the signal to noise ratio. The only question is who’s making the noise? How loud is it? And what can we do about it?

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By: Norman Varney https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:20:41 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-161 Very fun article! I would say that most every audiophile could improve their systems, without purchasing any new equipment, but just positioning their speaker/listener correctly for the room.

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By: Bill https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-133 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 18:14:44 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-133 This article is the concentrated guide in audiophile insanity.
Over the years aquired taste became second nature.I am the member of my own lunatic fringe that tries everything,from time to time.
Music is the spiritual nourishment,that keeps me hanging on,in a world that a ball game played by hands is called “football”????
As for my audio system,I am happy that all my discs,vinyl and silver sound different to each other.Night and day.Which speaks volumes.

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By: Jojak https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:53:13 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-132 Excellent. There’s some parallel, I feel, with the following tale (apology to those who know it):

The concerned elderly husband went to the doctor; his spouse’s hearing was growing worse with the years, and he was looking for a humane way to convince her that, perhaps, a hearing aid was needed. After discussion the doctor advised that they must first determine by some means or other, the degree of hearing loss. The doctor suggested that the husband asks his wife a question from decreasing distances, until she shows hearing by replying.

Thus intended, the husband waited until his wife was preparing supper in the kitchen one night, stood at the end of the corridor and asked in normal voice: “What’s for supper, dear?”

No reply.

He went somewhat closer, repeating the question. Still no reply. This is bad, he thought. At last he was within 3m from her: “What’s for supper, dear?!”

She spun around, looked at him quizzically, and said:

“John! Whatever is the matter with you tonight? For the fourth time: CHICKEN!”

All a matter of hearing …..

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By: Theresa https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-128 Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:32:16 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-128 I have suffered from this disorder but never to the degree of those in the depths of subjectivism, not that I haven’t tried nonsense that was free to try. I never had the sort of money to pay for $700 cables or other pathological OCD. I do wonder though whether my new diy/kit speakers could use a better mid-woofer costing $70 more and buying several amps so I could actively crossover them. My DIY speakers are actually quite pretty except for the 25 year old diy subs that need multiple coats of gloss black. I also don’t listen to music that JUST shows off the system but rather music I like that in odd instances is recorded well. I also use the same ht system for video and music and revel in good soundtracks.

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By: aman jain https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-119 Fri, 29 Oct 2010 07:59:13 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-119 hi .. what you stated is absolutely true .. bringing out the correct disease of an audiphile..

another disease is called as an upgrade bud .. it never ends.. and we are never satisfied..

to the question… young people are audiophiles… i believe it .. i am one..

and there are many.. and will love to share experiences..

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By: Venturinni https://www.hifizine.com/2010/09/the-unease-of-the-audiophile/comment-page-1/#comment-117 Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:29:10 +0000 http://www.hifizine.com/?p=813#comment-117 Patrick sounds a lot with the one that started up with Krell and ended up with Naim … 😉

more words for what ? its all in there … 😀

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